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karl "the architect" rove against sarah "governor half-term" palin. >>> pope francis is shaking up the cat lick church ahead of his official evaluation. >>> an amazing helicopter jailbreak. guilty verdicts in the steubenville rape case but that's not the end. and the world goes green for st. patrick. >>> investigators are on-scene in northern indiana this morning after a fiery crash involving a small private jet. four people were on board, two have died. early reports say the plane was experiencing mechanical troubles in its final minutes. nbc's frances koe has the latest on the crash and the investigation. >> reporter: the trin-engine jet crashed into three homes as it was coming into the south bend airport sunday afternoon. a neighbor saw the plane crash into the home across the street. >> heard the jet engines coming and looked up and actually thought the plane was going to crash into our house. and i just hit the deck. and i heard a loud boom noise and the plane went into three houses across the street from us. >> reporter: the jet started leaking fuel into the basement of one of t
karl "the architect" rove against sarah "governor half-term" palin. >>> pope francis is shaking up the cat lick church ahead of his official evaluation. >>> an amazing helicopter jailbreak. guilty verdicts in the steubenville rape case but that's not the end. and the world goes green for st. patrick. >>> investigators are on-scene in northern indiana this morning after a fiery crash involving a small private jet. four people were on board, two have...
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sarah palin and karl rove mixed it up. rove returned fire after palin took shots at him and his group american cross roads which hope to weed out of the candidates in the 2016 primaries. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vegt our candidates. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> well, first of all, i live in texas. i don't live in washington. and second of all, i'd say if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't leave office in midterm. >> ahh. the theater. let's bring in republican strategic rich galen, former director speaker for newt gingrich we also have former governor ed rendell. when sarah palin was making her remarks, apparently atlugd karl rove. do most americans agree with sarah palin that karl rove is part of the problem, not the solution. >> that's the kind of snarky sarcasm that i think the country sees coming out of the republican party. it's not helpful. it's not forward-looking. there'
sarah palin and karl rove mixed it up. rove returned fire after palin took shots at him and his group american cross roads which hope to weed out of the candidates in the 2016 primaries. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vegt our candidates. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> well, first of all, i live in texas. i don't live in washington. and second of all, i'd say if i did run...
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karl rove in the black trunks. what a tussle. >>> let me finish with the circular firing squad now assembled in the republican party. it's a beaut to watch. this is "hardball" the place for politics. as your life changes, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust along the way, refocus as careers change and kids head off to college, and revisit your investments as retirement gets closer. wherever you are today, fidelity's guidance can help you fine-tune your personal economy. start today with a free one-on-one review of your retirement plan. [ female announcer ] stress sweat is different than ordinary sweat. it smells worse. get 4x the protection against stress sweat. introducing new secret clinical strength stress response scent. mr. wiggles and curling irons. for the little mishaps you feel, use neosporin to help you heal. it kills germs so you heal four days faster neosporin. also try neosporin eczema essentials. >>> tonight president obama is traveling to israel in his first foreign poli
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karl rove in the black trunks. what a tussle. >>> let me finish with the circular firing squad now assembled in the republican party. it's a beaut to watch. this is "hardball" the place for politics. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. heart-healthy, whole grain oats. hey, buddy? oh, hey, flo. you want to see something cool? snapshot, from progressive. my insurance company told me not to talk to people like you. you always do what they tell you? no... try it, and see what your good driving can save you. you don't even have to switch. unless you're scared. i'm not scared, it's... you know we can still see you. no, you can't. pretty sure we can... try snapshot today -- no pressure. >>> tonight president obama is traveling to israel in his first foreign policy trip since winning re-election. tomorrow he'll met with israeli prime minister benjam
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rove and got a surprising answer. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential cam paper, a republican candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. he said he may not win or he or she may not win. so something is going on, bishop. >> right. and karl rove is not known for grasping the obvious. right? here, he has grasped the obvious. every demographic group every religious group are now showing a majority of approval for same-gender marriage. it's an astounding thing. never in the history of any civil rights movement have we come so far so fast. and, i would say, even if we achieve full marriage equality and all of the other equal status of citizenship in this country, there would be work to be done. let's remember that when we got the jim crow laws off of the books in the signatures for african-americans, it didn't mean the end of racism. and there will still be anti-gay feeling and sentiment in the country that will need to be worked on. but getting the laws in order, that is an important step forward. >> these are all signs of just about every sector of the economy,
rove and got a surprising answer. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential cam paper, a republican candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. he said he may not win or he or she may not win. so something is going on, bishop. >> right. and karl rove is not known for grasping the obvious. right? here, he has grasped the obvious. every demographic group every religious group are now showing a majority of approval for same-gender marriage. it's an...
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karl rove is right. he does not have that appeal. and worse yet is that he has a lot of egg on his face from 2012 including the meltdown in ohio. so if you go past the last victories, last thing we saw from karl rove was a total melt dunn. >> he's right, it's sarah palin. karl rove seems to know his place and he knows it's behind the scenes. that being said, the future of the republican party, the future is with neither. and i think rand paul winner of cpac's straw poll illustrates that. >> we'll see. will cain, lz, thanks for playing today. >> you bet. >>> the opening bell just rang on wall street and guess what, the dow is down just about 79 points right now. al wlis siclisoison kosik is li. what's going on? sdl the dow is off its lows of the session. we did see the dow fall as much as 100. and this is about the tiny island country of cyprus that need as bailout. but this is being watched closely because there is a condition for to get its $13 billion bailout. the proposal on the table here for those who live in cyprus is if you ha
karl rove is right. he does not have that appeal. and worse yet is that he has a lot of egg on his face from 2012 including the meltdown in ohio. so if you go past the last victories, last thing we saw from karl rove was a total melt dunn. >> he's right, it's sarah palin. karl rove seems to know his place and he knows it's behind the scenes. that being said, the future of the republican party, the future is with neither. and i think rand paul winner of cpac's straw poll illustrates that....
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karl rove said if i did i would at least complete my term. john boehner says marriage should still be between one man and one woman. and rob corker said it's time for republicans to start accepting the need for new revenue, and close some tax loopholes, but john boehner says even that is off the charts. he will not accept any talk about new revenue, and with that we'll talk sports with cindy boren, and keystone pipeline with the sierra club, all of that coming up here right on current tv. billy zane stars in barabbas. coming in march to reelz. to find reelz in your area, go to reelz.com billy zane stars in barabbas. coming in march to reelz. to find reelz in your area, go to reelz.com this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only
karl rove said if i did i would at least complete my term. john boehner says marriage should still be between one man and one woman. and rob corker said it's time for republicans to start accepting the need for new revenue, and close some tax loopholes, but john boehner says even that is off the charts. he will not accept any talk about new revenue, and with that we'll talk sports with cindy boren, and keystone pipeline with the sierra club, all of that coming up here right on current tv. billy...
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bill: carl roeuf karl rove is on "fox news sunday." this topic came up as to whether washington is up to speed on american. senator rand paul. >> i think the legislature is about ten years behind the public. i've introduced amendments to quit sending money t and build bridges here in the united states rather than in egypt. 90% of the people agree with me 80% of my senate disagree with me. bill: do you agree with rand paul on that? >> it's a little more complicated than that. he is correct that the senate is not as responsive to the will of the american people as it should be. for example it continues to spend too much, another point that senator paul has made. on the other hand people in political office need to be leaders as well and they need to explain why, for example, we send military assistance to egypt. we want the egyptian military to you supportive of u.s. policy. when they buy american equipment, when they receive our help they tend to be more supportive of our position. the egypt leader is trying to play both side. if the un
bill: carl roeuf karl rove is on "fox news sunday." this topic came up as to whether washington is up to speed on american. senator rand paul. >> i think the legislature is about ten years behind the public. i've introduced amendments to quit sending money t and build bridges here in the united states rather than in egypt. 90% of the people agree with me 80% of my senate disagree with me. bill: do you agree with rand paul on that? >> it's a little more complicated than...
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we're living in a different political reality than we were in 2004 when karl rove was beating a different drum. i mean, this issue has changed and republicans are changing with it. >> and yet, aisha, you still have as of the last election, it is very difficult to get through the primary season as a moderate or more left of center republican. >> i mean, it certainly is. but you know, i keep going back to looking at the electorate, what do we need to win as candidates in general. i believe on the issue of marriage equality, this has become a moderate issue, this is an issue about civil rights. most people know that, get that. that's why you see rob portman and others say i may be a republican, but i am coming out in front. even claire mccaskill who had a tough time, thought she would have a tough time in her primary come out and say you know what, this is the right thing to do because this is not about just electoral politics, this is about justice and civil rights for all. when we decided in america, hundreds of years ago, we're going to treat everybody equally, that's what the constitutio
we're living in a different political reality than we were in 2004 when karl rove was beating a different drum. i mean, this issue has changed and republicans are changing with it. >> and yet, aisha, you still have as of the last election, it is very difficult to get through the primary season as a moderate or more left of center republican. >> i mean, it certainly is. but you know, i keep going back to looking at the electorate, what do we need to win as candidates in general. i...
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same with karl rove, now coming out of the closet. we know his adopted father is believed to have been gay. what's worse exploying the big gory of others to increase your own power or being a big got? >> it's all calculations. this topic relates back to the gun topic congress can't get it passed while americans die because it's a political calculation. john: i love that you go back to the gun topic lee. brilliant. >> i think it's worse to be calculating about it, but that's the reason the tide is turning is because of that calculation because more americans are coming onboard with gay rights and the republican party are learning that homophobic stances don't fly with post americans. >> if the gop embraces most americans, where are the haters going to go? >> you just join the tea party i guess. i feel like the republican party right now is me when i was 13 years old and listening to michael jackson's man in the mirror. i knew i had to make a change. rob portman came out like pro gay marriage, did you not say anything. right now they're
same with karl rove, now coming out of the closet. we know his adopted father is believed to have been gay. what's worse exploying the big gory of others to increase your own power or being a big got? >> it's all calculations. this topic relates back to the gun topic congress can't get it passed while americans die because it's a political calculation. john: i love that you go back to the gun topic lee. brilliant. >> i think it's worse to be calculating about it, but that's the...
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it's reckless and wrong. >> greta: karl rove joins us. nice to see you. >> thanks, greta. >> the democrats have vowed to make the ryan budget part of the central focus of their 2014 campaign. we see the ad put out by the super pac connected to speaker boehner. is it about winning between the two parties? >> it's about big disagreements about the fiscal condition of the country and way to resolve it. if you take a look at the democratic budget, the budget put for -- let me move over to this side. if you take a look at the budget the democrat budget would spend $184 billion more than the house republican budget. next year would spend 347, nearly $348 billion more. it would introduce $20 billion in additional taxes this year and $40 billion in new taxes next year. so the deficit under the democratic senate budget proposal which only thing we've got at this point, calls for more spending and more taxes and bigger deficits. that is not where the american people are. recent polls this week showed that 55% of the american people favored the repu
it's reckless and wrong. >> greta: karl rove joins us. nice to see you. >> thanks, greta. >> the democrats have vowed to make the ryan budget part of the central focus of their 2014 campaign. we see the ad put out by the super pac connected to speaker boehner. is it about winning between the two parties? >> it's about big disagreements about the fiscal condition of the country and way to resolve it. if you take a look at the democratic budget, the budget put for -- let...
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. >> karl rove, we see the national rifle association. >> if you say we should keep the mentally ill and criminals from getting guns, yes. but we're talking about in this instance, having a registry if a grandfather wants to give a treasured shotgun to his grandson or granddaughter, he has to register with the government to give that gun to his grandchildren. in addition, senator schumer insists on keeping a registry of guns. the federal government keeping a national registry of gun sales and gun purchases and gun owners. >> but if you don't have records, how does the background check make a difference? >> it does make a difference. right now, i can go into a gun store in texas to purchase a weapon, i go through a background check, they have to ascertain that i don't have a criminal background. and then, i can purchase a gun. why is it's different than that is politics. there could be a lot of mutual agreement found on closing some of these so-called gun show loopholes. we could probably get agreement on a widespread basis of peope saying, you go to a gun show, you pass a check, you
. >> karl rove, we see the national rifle association. >> if you say we should keep the mentally ill and criminals from getting guns, yes. but we're talking about in this instance, having a registry if a grandfather wants to give a treasured shotgun to his grandson or granddaughter, he has to register with the government to give that gun to his grandchildren. in addition, senator schumer insists on keeping a registry of guns. the federal government keeping a national registry of gun...
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the founder of americanroads karl rove and democratic strategist joe trippi. bill, you have an editorial in the latest issue of the weekly standard in which you say that rand paul is wrong on natural security as a matter of policy and politics. why, especially is he wrong on a matter of politics? >> because the republican party to the degree it has been a successful party and important party and contributory american well being over the last 50-60 years has been so in large part because it has been the party of strong national security. you can say it is stale and moss covered but some of us are proud to have come to washington to work in a very minor role for ronald reagan and some of us are proud to have supported the bush administration after 9/11 and fighting epimieses and the problem with the obama administration is not that it is too assertive. the problem is that we are retreating all around the world and unfortunately emboldening our enemies. if rand paul wants to run to the left of the obama administration he is tree to ned ahat in the republican minu
the founder of americanroads karl rove and democratic strategist joe trippi. bill, you have an editorial in the latest issue of the weekly standard in which you say that rand paul is wrong on natural security as a matter of policy and politics. why, especially is he wrong on a matter of politics? >> because the republican party to the degree it has been a successful party and important party and contributory american well being over the last 50-60 years has been so in large part because...
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joining me now are the democratic strategist joe trippi and former bush senior advisor karl rove. welcome to you both. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: the process is in motion for the first time in several years. when people vote on these, there are political calculations. we saw that in the senate and the house. >> definitely. one thing that is true we have a process this time. the senate was 50-49. a close vote. look at what the house did with that vote. they voted 261 against it. 35 of them democrats. many are up for re-election in 2014. that was part of calculation. there was 221 je votes and 207 no. but look at what the senate did against that one. not even close. only 4 senators voted for it. 59 voted against it. five were g.o.p. senators. some of the no votes in there. four were senators coming up for re-election in 2014. they are looking for tax increase revenue. house side they want to repeal obamacare. how they bring it together and what is in the two different bills, how they reconcile them, we have a process. that is the good news. the bad news is we are having the
joining me now are the democratic strategist joe trippi and former bush senior advisor karl rove. welcome to you both. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: the process is in motion for the first time in several years. when people vote on these, there are political calculations. we saw that in the senate and the house. >> definitely. one thing that is true we have a process this time. the senate was 50-49. a close vote. look at what the house did with that vote. they voted 261...
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the fact that somebody is attacking karl rove and john boehner as being squishy moderates, that tells you how far to the right some of these folks have gone. so what we hope to do is play in republican primaries in the house, not attacking anybody, but saying that if you happen to reflect new england or ohio or pennsylvania, there shouldn't be some litmus test based upon a few wealthy people as to whether or not you're a good republican. electability is what it's about. >> former congressman, good to see you. thanks so much. >>> checking the news feed this morning, colorado police are following up on several tips in their man hunt for the person who killed the state's prison director. tom clements was shot tuesday after answering the front door of his home. officials say they don't know for sure if the murder is related to his job, but they have increased security for other state officials including the governor. >>> the new general in charge of guantanamo bay prison wants $150 million to overhaul the facility that president obama once vowed to shut down. the money would pay for new g
the fact that somebody is attacking karl rove and john boehner as being squishy moderates, that tells you how far to the right some of these folks have gone. so what we hope to do is play in republican primaries in the house, not attacking anybody, but saying that if you happen to reflect new england or ohio or pennsylvania, there shouldn't be some litmus test based upon a few wealthy people as to whether or not you're a good republican. electability is what it's about. >> former...
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that's when, as you pointed out, he was talking about -- serious karl rove discussing the politics of the easter egg roll. >> that was on fox on friday. the easter egg roll tied in with the massively important issue of the white house tours and stuff like that. but you know, so karl rove says the next republican nominee could support gay marriage and they're obviously going to be -- i assume they'll be completely different on immigration and so this is -- this goes to the tension, you know. this right wing civil war and it's being waged quietly now because there's not a ton at stake in terms of elections but my gosh. ten years ago if you had thought a republican -- and republican leaders are basically urging politicians to embrace gay marriage, you know, the opposition which has been a cornerstone in the previous decade. suddenly embrace immigration reform and things like that. so you know, i don't think it is being done out of goodwill, honestly. i think is being done out of flip flopping and watching the polls. this is where the tension comes from, ralph reed talking about evangelic
that's when, as you pointed out, he was talking about -- serious karl rove discussing the politics of the easter egg roll. >> that was on fox on friday. the easter egg roll tied in with the massively important issue of the white house tours and stuff like that. but you know, so karl rove says the next republican nominee could support gay marriage and they're obviously going to be -- i assume they'll be completely different on immigration and so this is -- this goes to the tension, you...
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and joining me the architect, karl rove. >> and i think that indiana is going to win, i'm a friend of the coach of indiana and got to speak to the squad this fall. >> sean: with your inspiration how could they possibly lose. >> exactly, robert gibbs and i spoke to them together. >> sean: robert gibbs, my good friend. all right, senate democratic budget is going to add 50 grand in debt to every american family, karl, that's not a budget. >> no, no, well, it's a budget, but it's a budget of the democrats. in fact, sean, this might be really illuminating. if you take a look at the senate democrat budget, this year they want to spend 184 billion dollars more than the republicans proposed. next year, 348 billion dollars more than the republicans. and this year, they want to raise taxes by 20 billion dollars through the republican budget, doesn't raise taxes. next year they want to raise the taxes by 40 billion dollars, again, the republican budget doesn't raise taxes and then on the deficit this year, the democrat deficit would be 164 billion dollars bigger than the republican deficit. and
and joining me the architect, karl rove. >> and i think that indiana is going to win, i'm a friend of the coach of indiana and got to speak to the squad this fall. >> sean: with your inspiration how could they possibly lose. >> exactly, robert gibbs and i spoke to them together. >> sean: robert gibbs, my good friend. all right, senate democratic budget is going to add 50 grand in debt to every american family, karl, that's not a budget. >> no, no, well, it's a...
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. >> karl rove, the great master mind behind the campaign. >> sean: what's karl rove behind this. >> he was behind romney and didn't win the presidency and the last two years, you were talking about romney winning and guess what? he lost and mcconnell is going to lose, too. >> sean: how much you want to bet. >> they polled mcconnell's poll issues, one of the problems he's not conservative enough. that's the problem in kentucky if he was-- >> and you got back from colorado again. >> right, i must not be the one smoking pot because bill clinton won twice in kentucky. >> that's why he doesn't want her to be the candidate. >> he want another democrat. >> not mcconnell. >> someone electable. >> sean: he doesn't want ashley judd-- >> people are conservative and-- >> yeah, he doesn't want ashley to run because he knows she's going to lose. >> too far left. >> no, because his best friend's daughter is secretary of state. >> sean: wrong. >> let me educate you, sean, his-- >> of before the segment i say this to other occ and makes her bubble like alka-seltzer in water and she steals my line. y
. >> karl rove, the great master mind behind the campaign. >> sean: what's karl rove behind this. >> he was behind romney and didn't win the presidency and the last two years, you were talking about romney winning and guess what? he lost and mcconnell is going to lose, too. >> sean: how much you want to bet. >> they polled mcconnell's poll issues, one of the problems he's not conservative enough. that's the problem in kentucky if he was-- >> and you got back...
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. >>> meanwhile, it's another conservative clash as sarah palin ridicules karl rove's reaction to the last election. rove wastes no time firing back. >>> also today, a deep dive. previewing president obama's trip to the middle east this week. will expectations grow for a major peace plan progress before the end of his presidency? >>> good morning from port aransas, texas. >> it's monday, march 18th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." >> now here's chuck todd! >> big thank you to maddie and noah salazar. on spring break at port aransas, texas. first reads of the morning. by the way, see the beach when it's sleeting behind me is kind of a nice little picture there. >>> right now republican party chairman reince priebus is unveiling his own autopsy of what went wrong in 2012. while the report blames the process more than gop prince ips or policy position it also admits more problems than you might expect. >> there's no one reason we lost. our message was weak. our ground game was insufficient. we weren't inclusive. we were behind in both data and digital. and our primary debate process n
. >>> meanwhile, it's another conservative clash as sarah palin ridicules karl rove's reaction to the last election. rove wastes no time firing back. >>> also today, a deep dive. previewing president obama's trip to the middle east this week. will expectations grow for a major peace plan progress before the end of his presidency? >>> good morning from port aransas, texas. >> it's monday, march 18th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." >> now...
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i'm just saying, we don't need to have a karl rove monopoly this year. what he did in 2002, pretty damn remarkable and also in 2004. he got 2006 completely wrong. >> he has a what not to do litigation, right? >> maybe so. >> i'll say one thing. the way in which karl got things wrong was a problem within the republican party. most republican polsters, almost all, where exactly where he was thinking that mitt romney was going to win. so that problem is a systemic problem. the party got it wrong across the board. >> you know why? because they lived inside their own media bubble. >> i agree wmt. >> at the end of the day, karl rove lived and breathed inside the media/conservative bubble. >> it's hard to find an alternative. it's hard to find someone either a strategist or polster in the republican party who is out there yelling at the rest of the party. you guys are all wrong. it's hard to find somebody who is right within the party. >> you know what i started saying in early september. we were going to lose. >> yeah. >> i got absolutely savaged. i was absolu
i'm just saying, we don't need to have a karl rove monopoly this year. what he did in 2002, pretty damn remarkable and also in 2004. he got 2006 completely wrong. >> he has a what not to do litigation, right? >> maybe so. >> i'll say one thing. the way in which karl got things wrong was a problem within the republican party. most republican polsters, almost all, where exactly where he was thinking that mitt romney was going to win. so that problem is a systemic problem. the...
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but sarah palin taking on karl rove in a thinly-veiled jibe at rove and rove come back on fox news. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in that party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck, buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> if she can plan primaries other people can plan primaries. i don't think i'm a particularly good candidate, a balding foot phat guy and if i did run for office and win, i would serve out my term, i wouldn't leave office mid-term. >> ouch. >> is palin still a factor? she brought the crowd to their feet on saturday afternoon. >> i don't think she's a factor at all. i think she's just an amusing reality show to watch. >> she accused the president, she said that the white house is a reality show. this is a woman via mark burnett did her own reality show and she accused barack obama of having a reality show. >> she's got a tart approach and she gives a good show, reality or not reality. but i don't think she's a serious political factor i
but sarah palin taking on karl rove in a thinly-veiled jibe at rove and rove come back on fox news. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in that party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck, buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> if she can plan primaries other people can plan primaries. i don't think i'm a particularly good candidate, a balding foot phat...
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karl rove on abc this morning. the two plans lawmakers will take up when they come back from spring break. the senate budget passed early yesterday. could not be more different than the house version. according to the "new york times," the senate plan calls for nearly $1 trillion in new taxes, modest cuts in government spending but leaves the government with $566 billion in annual deficits over the next ten years. the house plan balances the budget by 2023 with big cuts in domestic spending and major changes to medicare and the tax code. charlie rangel, new york's most famous congressman, is here with me. former chair of the house ways and means committee. start with the chasm between the two plans. is there room for compromise at all between the senate and house plan? >> the major difference is that, obama and most of the country that voted for him really thinks that a time of recession that we're coming out of it that we should be creating jobs and not laying off people just with cuts. that is the difference. the
karl rove on abc this morning. the two plans lawmakers will take up when they come back from spring break. the senate budget passed early yesterday. could not be more different than the house version. according to the "new york times," the senate plan calls for nearly $1 trillion in new taxes, modest cuts in government spending but leaves the government with $566 billion in annual deficits over the next ten years. the house plan balances the budget by 2023 with big cuts in domestic...
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karl rove, we have got to get rid of him. right now in n our state, we are going to start a coalition in the state party, and we have different people that have come in, organizations, and one of values he faith and organization. they want people of faith -- and as a christian, i want to be a part of this. but one thing the republican party has to do, we want to stay with our principles that we have on our republican platform, and we do not want karl rove to tell us that social issues do not matter in society. we are very distrustful of the republican party. it's hard for me to back the republican party when one of our own is -- as i think you probably know -- just came out saying he's going to change his mind on this marriage thing. the republican party has to stay with the principles of our platform, and it's the people that run -- they don't like our platform, they need to move over to the democratic platform. i think karl rove is just going to hurt our party. host: craig is calling in on the republican line. thanks for ca
karl rove, we have got to get rid of him. right now in n our state, we are going to start a coalition in the state party, and we have different people that have come in, organizations, and one of values he faith and organization. they want people of faith -- and as a christian, i want to be a part of this. but one thing the republican party has to do, we want to stay with our principles that we have on our republican platform, and we do not want karl rove to tell us that social issues do not...
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what do you think that karl rove is acknowledging this? it. >> well, i think it, like me, he might be optimistic that's the case, that we don't have this play a large role in the primary. but i've got to tell you, kate, i think it might be possible that the question is no longer relevant. nobody asks in a primary or in a political race anymore, are you for or against it interracial marriage? it's no longer a relevant question. and i think the shift on this one issue is growing, increasing the approval so exponentially that by the time 2016 rolls around it may not have the relevan relevancy we see it now. i think the same thing will be true for immigration. the problem may be solved may h republican primary as far as topics than in 2012. >> what do you think, do you agree with anna, same-sex marriage is going to be a non-issue in the republican primary come 2016? >> i don't. first off, it is anna's party, she's probably more right than i am on these things, i'm just speculating. if i'm going to watch a republican analyst, it's going to be a
what do you think that karl rove is acknowledging this? it. >> well, i think it, like me, he might be optimistic that's the case, that we don't have this play a large role in the primary. but i've got to tell you, kate, i think it might be possible that the question is no longer relevant. nobody asks in a primary or in a political race anymore, are you for or against it interracial marriage? it's no longer a relevant question. and i think the shift on this one issue is growing, increasing...
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. >> sean: and we have karl rove two cases before the supreme court regarding gay marriage and the next candidate might support gay marriage. problem? >> yes, it is, two points right back at you, sean, first of all, you're so adorable and you play all of my earnest quotes. i have a lot of jokes in that speech next time start with those. >> sean: you want to pick your own clips? go ahead, go ahead. >> i had a lot of good jokes. and you know, all of my earnest statements and actually-- >> that was a good point you made. >> thank you. and i mean, one of the points i made to them was we keep blowing easy electionings, if we had not blown ten senate elections in the election cycles. the senate would be 56 republicans, 44 democrats. there are categories how we screw up and one is, i'm not really sure, now my least favorite politician in america is john mccain, but in general, i think we should avoid primarying incumbents in our own party that-- or equivalent of incumbent. an exception for primarying a bad republican, an extremely red state. say, arizona. >> sean: you were so chris christie, n
. >> sean: and we have karl rove two cases before the supreme court regarding gay marriage and the next candidate might support gay marriage. problem? >> yes, it is, two points right back at you, sean, first of all, you're so adorable and you play all of my earnest quotes. i have a lot of jokes in that speech next time start with those. >> sean: you want to pick your own clips? go ahead, go ahead. >> i had a lot of good jokes. and you know, all of my earnest statements...
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and today karl rove wrote a piece in "the wall street journal." he said this. "understanding that today's technology has the shelf life of a banana, silicon valley republicans are working to modernize the gop's voter file in advance of next year's midterm." he didn't right anything about modernizing the gop policies, just their list of voters. >> well, this is going to be their problem, too. because the tea party element is that they don't think strategically. otherwise, they would have control of the senate right now. they lost colorado, denver, nevada, and they are not thinking strategically and really don't care if the republican wins so much as whether the republican keeps to their very hardcore view of issues like immigration. and like abortion and other things like that. but the party -- when you you talked about abortion, the party has a lot more repairing to do. there are a lot of women who are anti-abortion. it was a contraception argument. the insults that came from members of the party and the people who didn't distance themselves. you cannot insult
and today karl rove wrote a piece in "the wall street journal." he said this. "understanding that today's technology has the shelf life of a banana, silicon valley republicans are working to modernize the gop's voter file in advance of next year's midterm." he didn't right anything about modernizing the gop policies, just their list of voters. >> well, this is going to be their problem, too. because the tea party element is that they don't think strategically....
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one last thing, just like karl rove but conservative. >> geraldo: hold it a little higher. can't see it. hold it a little higher. joe for america.org. i like the high prized graphics there. how is your poe let cal aspirations going. >> i'm enjoying being an activist and getting behind great people. i'm having fun making things happen. >> geraldo: i appreciate you coming on. thanks very much. >> geraldo: several aspiring models have gone missing recently. all of them using the same modeling website. here is the question that we ask in the investigation tonight there a serial rapist and killer of these models on the loose? that's next. ll have to pay fivd bucks for your deductible. the truth? at allstate, you could pay zero. allstate gives you a hundred dollars off your deductible the day you sign up. then another hundred off every year you don't have an accident. let the good hands reward your safe driving with a deductible that goes away. ♪ deductible rewards. one more way you're in good hands with allstate. ♪ then i read an article about a study that looked at the long
one last thing, just like karl rove but conservative. >> geraldo: hold it a little higher. can't see it. hold it a little higher. joe for america.org. i like the high prized graphics there. how is your poe let cal aspirations going. >> i'm enjoying being an activist and getting behind great people. i'm having fun making things happen. >> geraldo: i appreciate you coming on. thanks very much. >> geraldo: several aspiring models have gone missing recently. all of them...
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., the manager of the president's reelection campaign and republican consultant karl rove. at 2:00 p.m., chris wallace speaks with rand paul and gary bauer, the president of american values. veterans affairs secretary, erickson said he, on at 3:00 p.m., as well as the chief .olicy officer for veterans president of freedom to marry, tony perkins, president of the family research council. brought to you as a public- service by the network and c- span. here the repairs at noon, eastern. 1:00 p.m. o listen to them all on c- span radio. your smart phone, or online. [video clip] >> the most striking differences the calmness of teh parade. 100 years ago it was less of a parade and more of a riot. the police refused to protect them and as it progressed, crowds got larger and larger, unruly, they had been drinking. they would throw things and shout things, telling them to go home. so, the crowd got larger and larger and more aggressive. the women could not before word. the police were involved. the secretary of defense brought back thevalry to push unruly crowd so that the women cou
., the manager of the president's reelection campaign and republican consultant karl rove. at 2:00 p.m., chris wallace speaks with rand paul and gary bauer, the president of american values. veterans affairs secretary, erickson said he, on at 3:00 p.m., as well as the chief .olicy officer for veterans president of freedom to marry, tony perkins, president of the family research council. brought to you as a public- service by the network and c- span. here the repairs at noon, eastern. 1:00 p.m....
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karl rove weighs in. bill: doesn't look like spring, does it. heather: not at all. bill: not here. where this massive pileup happened on the highway. we'll tell you how they made out there. heather: i hear they're suing the groundhog because of that. and investigating now underway if syria, seriously, is using chemical weapons or has but some law make he is -- lawmakers here say it is clear they did. president obama says this would be a game-changer. general jack keane is here with his take on this growing crisis. >> you have a government that we believe and we have solid information, by the way the international community believes this, has chemical weapons. has put them in a position to be used on short notice, and i believe, there's a high probability has been used with that whole body over the last two years. hey, our salads. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you... could've had a v8. heather: well f
karl rove weighs in. bill: doesn't look like spring, does it. heather: not at all. bill: not here. where this massive pileup happened on the highway. we'll tell you how they made out there. heather: i hear they're suing the groundhog because of that. and investigating now underway if syria, seriously, is using chemical weapons or has but some law make he is -- lawmakers here say it is clear they did. president obama says this would be a game-changer. general jack keane is here with his take on...
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buck up, karl. take a big gulp. you have a long week ahead. we are joined now by msnbc political analyst, former senior adviser to the president, david axelrod live with us from phoenix, arizona. good afternoon, sir. >> martin, good to be with you. >> it's been suggested that you and your team were responsible for defining mitt romney and the republican party over the course of last year. in fact, both mr. romney and mrs. romney have complained that they were negatively defined by the president's campaign. but don't the events at cpac this weekend prove that if anyone's responsible for the ugly, noninclusive brand, it's the party, itself? >> yeah, i think mitt romney's problem began with the party whose nomination he was seeking. he made so many accommodations to try to get that nomination. you know, self-deportation, i'm going to kill planned parenthood, and so on. that he literally walled the party and himself off from a lot of voters in the general election. this, i heard chairman priebus say today that they're a big tent party, and in the
buck up, karl. take a big gulp. you have a long week ahead. we are joined now by msnbc political analyst, former senior adviser to the president, david axelrod live with us from phoenix, arizona. good afternoon, sir. >> martin, good to be with you. >> it's been suggested that you and your team were responsible for defining mitt romney and the republican party over the course of last year. in fact, both mr. romney and mrs. romney have complained that they were negatively defined by...
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. >> so, ben, no love lost between karl rove and sarah palin. how quickly do you think reince priebus and folks at rnc want to get stars like rove and palin and moving forward? >> well, if sarah palin wins this fight, i think you'll see the republican party in tatters like it was during the goldwater days. you're laying the groundwork for somebody like rand paul to win the iowa caucus us. chairman priebus made all the right recommendations. i would have gone further and said challenge your electorate. challenge your base. open up those primaries to independents. then you'll get republican candidates incentive to run to the center instead of to the right of rand paul. if those candidates win out you'll see democrats do very well in the midterms and four years. >> real quick guys, element number four of the cpac straw poll it puts rand paul in at 25%. marco rubio at 23%. so we have a leader there. our power panel, perry bacon, ben labolt, susan del percio. thank you. >>> university of central florida's main campus in orlando will reopen and classe
. >> so, ben, no love lost between karl rove and sarah palin. how quickly do you think reince priebus and folks at rnc want to get stars like rove and palin and moving forward? >> well, if sarah palin wins this fight, i think you'll see the republican party in tatters like it was during the goldwater days. you're laying the groundwork for somebody like rand paul to win the iowa caucus us. chairman priebus made all the right recommendations. i would have gone further and said...
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rove. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vetting our candidates. the architects can head on back to -- >> they can head on back to the lone star state and put their name on a ballot. >> i would say if i did run for office and win, i would serve out my term. i wouldn't leave office mid-term. >> the kind of fracas that sees ted cruz take on john mccain. >> we had an eminent member of the republican party describe me as whacko bird. if standing for the constitution makes me a whacko bird, then count me a proud whacko bird. >> the kind of intraparty donnybrook featuring ann coulter versus ann coulter. here is what she said two years ago. >> if you don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee. and lose. >> and here is ann coulter this weekend, landing one squarely on the jaw of the very same guy she once wanted to elect president. >> even cpac had to cut back on his speakers this year by about 300 pounds. i'm now a single-issue voter against amnesty. so christie's off my list. >> the next national election is still 596 da
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finally one quick question about karl rove. he is also on the side of saying we got to do something about these tea party whackos who get these guys elected and then they can't win in november. >> yeah, it was amazing how many shots got taken at karl rove at cpac. sarah palin, and [ inaudible ] from the conservative media watchdog group -- i'm blanking on the name, i'm sorry -- >> bill: the media research -- >> media research center. thank you. it's pretty amazing how quickly he was able to isle leen at it a lot of those tea party folks. a lot of them probably didn't like him in the first place, but it's amazing -- and he did sort of back down from some of his stuff originally where he was -- that conservative victory project that founded -- after that first round of comments he was helping and hawing on how much they would be getting involved in these primaries and whether or not they would be going after people like steve keg who looks like he is going to win any primary in iowa. >> bill: all right. kevin robolard is a report
finally one quick question about karl rove. he is also on the side of saying we got to do something about these tea party whackos who get these guys elected and then they can't win in november. >> yeah, it was amazing how many shots got taken at karl rove at cpac. sarah palin, and [ inaudible ] from the conservative media watchdog group -- i'm blanking on the name, i'm sorry -- >> bill: the media research -- >> media research center. thank you. it's pretty amazing how quickly...
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this weekend, sarah palin slammed karl rove. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. >> reporter: rove hit back on fox news sunday. >> i say if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't -- i wouldn't leave office midterm. >> reporter: and john mccain recently called rising republican star rand paul a wacko-bird. paul responded at the cpac conference. >> the gop of old has grown stale and moss-covered. [ cheers ] i don't think we need to name any names, do we? >> reporter: now, these divisions have become personal lately in the gop, and i think a way, wolf, we don't normally see. but they're substantive divisions as well. how to tackle the issues like immigration reform, things like same-sex marriage. something that's becoming increasingly popular. and, also, how to tackle women's issues in a way that doesn't repel women, as mitt romney did in november. >> lots of work ahead. thanks very much, brianna for that report. the report, by the way, repaired by the republican national
this weekend, sarah palin slammed karl rove. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. >> reporter: rove hit back on fox news sunday. >> i say if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't -- i wouldn't leave office midterm. >> reporter: and john mccain recently called rising republican star rand paul a wacko-bird. paul responded at the cpac conference. >>...
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rove of the era and said you have to deflate your opponent and nixon learned that lesson and in a way was the dark side there? nixon was there. the attack site of temples and just giving eisenhower's bidding it was something that he learned and believed in deeply but i'm not quite sure of the domestic policy and which even. >> i guess i'd say it seems from the first month of axson's presidency that he was already applying these lessons of domestic policy to determine his political future. and i was curious if you saw him learning lessons from how eisenhower reacted and things like little rock how to get out ahead of these things. this is what i've been dreading all along in the decision. >> you suggested he might have felt that way but it's clear that richard nixon came to think that the white eisenhower had handled the crisis badly and long story short, the israelis, the french and the british -- this is a conspiracy. agent in conspiracy. the united states decided not to back great britain and france and in fact put real pressure on the british to get out of this. richard nixon in la
rove of the era and said you have to deflate your opponent and nixon learned that lesson and in a way was the dark side there? nixon was there. the attack site of temples and just giving eisenhower's bidding it was something that he learned and believed in deeply but i'm not quite sure of the domestic policy and which even. >> i guess i'd say it seems from the first month of axson's presidency that he was already applying these lessons of domestic policy to determine his political future....
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one is that the kind of conversion, the pragmatic political conversion of the karl roves of the world who can read an exit poll who says we can't win national elections losing 75-25. can't do it. but then what's interesting to me is when i covered the 2007 fight, you know, those office switch boards were flooded every right-wing talk show host every day was in the weed of everything on mccain-kennedy. there was this massive genuine grassroots backlash and you saw it in town halls. very tea party stuff. gary you covered this. why are things different because that to me is i..ing. pragmatic calculation on behalf of the republican elite i get. >> there's a sense they love, the right loves power more than it hates immigrants. that's the point. if they carry on doing this they will lose and there are so many other things at stake if they lose that they can't carry on in their way. so there's that sense of inevitabilitity forces a reconing. there was a time in the '60s when no one would engage, a large part of the population wouldn't engage with civil rights. then they said we have to find
one is that the kind of conversion, the pragmatic political conversion of the karl roves of the world who can read an exit poll who says we can't win national elections losing 75-25. can't do it. but then what's interesting to me is when i covered the 2007 fight, you know, those office switch boards were flooded every right-wing talk show host every day was in the weed of everything on mccain-kennedy. there was this massive genuine grassroots backlash and you saw it in town halls. very tea...
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karl rove, former chief advisor, deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and fox news contributor. good morning to you and welcome back. >> good morning, bill. bill: we'll get to cvs in a moment. you bought your whiteboard because you've been tracking health care premiums since obamacare was signed into law. what have you found? >> well, this is important. this is why cvs is trying to do this. the law is pushing up the premiums that are being paid by employers and their workers. and, companies as a result are looking for every piece in the law that gives them a chance to try to restrain that growth. in 2009, before the affordable care act the average, average cost of a health insurance for family of four was 13,375. 2010, it jumped to 13,770. a 1.7% increase. that is the year the law got passed. the next year it had a $103 premium increase, jumping to $15,000. last year it was 672, up 4 1/2%. now remember, companies now are paying an average, the companies pay most of this cost. they're paying an average of $11,429 out of that $15,745 that is being, t
karl rove, former chief advisor, deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and fox news contributor. good morning to you and welcome back. >> good morning, bill. bill: we'll get to cvs in a moment. you bought your whiteboard because you've been tracking health care premiums since obamacare was signed into law. what have you found? >> well, this is important. this is why cvs is trying to do this. the law is pushing up the premiums that are being paid by employers and their...
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rove and sarah palin. sarah palin stole the show at this weekend's cpac convention, playing more the role of entertainer and standup comedian than a serious politician. >> bloomberg is not around. >> her remarks included a direct shot at karl rove. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vetting our candidates. it is these experts that keep losing elections, you keep getting rehired, raking in millions. architects can head on back -- they can head back to the lone star state and put their name on some ballots. >> he fired back reminding palin of her political primary. >> if she can plan primaries, other people can. >> if i did, i would serve my term, i wouldn't leave office mid term. >> jeb bush offered tough love to his party. >> all too often we are associated with being anti-everything. >> neither bush nor palin scored with conservatives for the 2006 race. it was rand paul and marco rubio that took top spots in the cpac straw poll. >> that republican party autopsy one of the things they're putting
rove and sarah palin. sarah palin stole the show at this weekend's cpac convention, playing more the role of entertainer and standup comedian than a serious politician. >> bloomberg is not around. >> her remarks included a direct shot at karl rove. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vetting our candidates. it is these experts that keep losing elections, you keep getting rehired, raking in millions. architects can head on back -- they can head back to the lone star...
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. >> bill: sarah palin and karl rove, rand paul and marco rubio john mccain calling them whacko birds. >> yeah, i feel like he is the guy at then of scooby doo -- if it wasn't for those darn kids. it's not just enough to hate government. when you elect folks to government that hate government they destroy it. you would never put somebody as a ceo of a company who hated the company. >> bill: the other thing they came without a report this week which some people call the autopsy, which i love, which autopsies are performed on cold dead bodies that you know are not coming back from the grave. >> yes. >> bill: and they say we need to be the party of outreach. and the very next day reince priebus says we are the party that believes that marriage is between one man and one woman only. when 81% of the voters support marriage equality. so they are not the party of outreach. >> absolutely not. i saw this in the republican party in the '90s when i was rap. there was a lot of lip service reaching out to young folks, but the core base will just not let it happen. >> correct me if i'm wrong, but w
. >> bill: sarah palin and karl rove, rand paul and marco rubio john mccain calling them whacko birds. >> yeah, i feel like he is the guy at then of scooby doo -- if it wasn't for those darn kids. it's not just enough to hate government. when you elect folks to government that hate government they destroy it. you would never put somebody as a ceo of a company who hated the company. >> bill: the other thing they came without a report this week which some people call the...
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. >> what do you think about karl rove oppose the initiative to find strong gop initiatives? we have had groups that are outside groups that have been in the business of trying to pick winners. i appreciate the first amendment. i think any person in america that wants to file for a 527 or they want to organize a group to help a articular candidates should be able to do it. i am not against it. as far as the rnc is concerned, we do not pick winners and losers in primaries. it is not something we do. world it is barred. it is a business we are not in. -- rule it is barred. it is a business we are not in. could create the ideal presidential candidates for cycle, what with this candidate like? are there popular personalities that could take part from to create a composite? >> we have great candidates that we all know are probably looking already at 2016. they will not say that but i think we know it is happening. if you look at the youth and our party like marco rubio and paul get and many others, you the idea. we have great hispanic leaders like ted kreuz. i think we have done a
. >> what do you think about karl rove oppose the initiative to find strong gop initiatives? we have had groups that are outside groups that have been in the business of trying to pick winners. i appreciate the first amendment. i think any person in america that wants to file for a 527 or they want to organize a group to help a articular candidates should be able to do it. i am not against it. as far as the rnc is concerned, we do not pick winners and losers in primaries. it is not...
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we'll get karl rove's thoughts on that. see you in ten minutes on america's newsroom. >>. >> gretchen: parents of a 14-year-old boy are outraged after their son became the target of peta. he wanted to raffle off a cow but in return the animal rights group sent him photos like these women wearing bikinis made of lettuce. here is the email. it seems strange to me that you feel that someone needs to die for you to go on a school trip. i feel we can agree there are other humane ways that don't involve a dead chopped up corpse. joining me is logan and his father. >> good morning. >> gretchen: logan, you wanted to raise a little money to go on a trip, right? >> yes. >> so i understand you sold tickets at ten dollars apiece. did you ever think you would get a response? >> i never knew about that. >> gretchen: scott is the father i know you have six kids. it was too expensive for you to come up with the funds for your child to be able to do this trip. he was going to raffle off his cow, do you think he would have a problem with it?
we'll get karl rove's thoughts on that. see you in ten minutes on america's newsroom. >>. >> gretchen: parents of a 14-year-old boy are outraged after their son became the target of peta. he wanted to raffle off a cow but in return the animal rights group sent him photos like these women wearing bikinis made of lettuce. here is the email. it seems strange to me that you feel that someone needs to die for you to go on a school trip. i feel we can agree there are other humane ways...